28 responses

  1. ROCKETMAN
    April 23, 2013

    @Misha
    “Earth to planet Zog, calling Earth to planet Zog … Beware! Misha has escaped!

    Ford build very good cars, no argument. But get serious now.

    Mondeo 2.2 TDCi Titanium versus BMW 520D SE?

    I know which one I’d take and it doesn’t begin with an ‘F’!

  2. J77
    April 23, 2013

    Misha :
    Ford is by far the best brand out there.

    are you kidding

  3. frank stevens
    April 22, 2013

    @Sonico
    Fiat’s two-channel approach is indeed risky. The problem will come when the existing 500 and its derivatives need to be replaced. How will they update them? The current styling is a direct link to the 1960′s model and it’s all the better for that. But as we have seen with BMW’s revival of Mini over the last decade, the MK2 looks almost identical to the MK1, even though it has a completely new (and larger) platform.

    Agreed … the 4C will only be a low volume halo model for Alfa, in much the same way that the Opel Speedster/Vauxhall VX220 was.

  4. Sonico
    April 22, 2013

    frank stevens :On the subject of the Qashqai, it is interesting (yet somehow sad) to note that the Nissan plant in Sunderland UK built more vehicles during 2012, than the entire combined production of all marques in Italy … Fiat/Alfa/Lancia/Maserati/Ferrari, etc!
    At present Alfa Romeo only produces the Mito and Guilia. Where are the replacements for the GT, Brera, 159, 8C Competizione?
    Let’s hope that the resurgence of Fiat continues. The world is a better place with Italian cars in the mix!

    It’s sad indeed for the Italian industry. One small note regarding Alfa Romeo: they are now selling (and quite successfully, at least) the Giulietta, not Giulia; the Giulia SHOULD be the replacement for the 159, but we’ve heard this for too long now. I assume the 4C may be a partial replacement for the “low-end” sport coupés (GT and Brera) but I think it is too “extreme”, if you get what I mean, to substantially boost sales. Let’s now hope on the new Duetto, to be built in joint venture with Mazda.
    And let’s see how well will Fiat’s supposed strategy to sell based on two channels, one based on the Panda (basic cars) and one based on the 500 and its derivatives (500L, 500XL, 500X, 500TBA, 500WTF – premium cars). I’m personally not all that convinced, but time will tell.

  5. Misha
    April 22, 2013

    Ford is by far the best brand out there.

  6. J77
    April 22, 2013

    Steam :
    Fiat is the only brand in the top-ten with a positive tendency.

    the cheapest brand in the top 10.

  7. J77
    April 22, 2013

    @Bryan

    I agree. The 208, Polo, and probably de Clio, are better than de Corsa.

  8. Pedro
    April 22, 2013

    Ian :
    @frank stevens
    interstingly Volkswagen sales and market share have fallen this year.

    That’s obvioulsy caused by the transition Golf 6 to Golf 7. It will take some more months for VW to recover, especially after Mk7 – Variant, Plus, GTI, GTD, 4motion, Bluemotion and R arrive on the dealer lots.

  9. Bryan
    April 22, 2013

    @Ian
    Not so much. Polo, 208 or Clio are better built than the Vauxhall/Chevrolet/Opel whatever corsa.

  10. Ian
    April 21, 2013

    It is true some British people think that all Fords and Opel/Vauxhall cars are made in the UK,
    the Corsa is built in Spain (and built very well) like the Polo, the mainstream cars manufactured here are the Astra, Qashqai, Juke, Note, Leaf (including battery production), Auris, Avensis, Jazz (at the moment) and Civic, The Astra destined for Europe will be made in either Poland for Eastern Europe or Ellesmere Port, England for Western Europe. There is a new Note on the way and a Civic station wagon. Of course the up market manufacturers like Land Rover-Jaguar, Bentley, Aston Martin and Rolls-Royce do very well. The Japanese have been very good to us, the Americans much less so, considering that the UK is by far the biggest market for Opel/Vauxhall and Ford. Sorry went on too long.

  11. Bryan
    April 21, 2013

    @Thomas

    Vauxhall/Opel cheats their clients in UK because they think they are buying a british car(Vauxhall), but that’s false. That’s the reason why GM sell so much in UK and the crap corsa as well. I would prefer that European brands would sell more than the americans Ford/GM in UK.

  12. Ian
    April 21, 2013

    @frank stevens

    I agree, the motoring world needs Italian design and flair, the Panda is apparently having its best year in the UK, although we are not the the biggest buyer of city cars, the Hyundai i10 does well as do the Aygo/C1/107, but the Up! does not appear to be anywhere as near as successful as was expected. The Corsa sells because people seem to like it, Nissan has been very good for the UK, both for employment and the economy, like the rest of Europe any good news is always welcome. Fiat sales and market share are increasing here as well, we love the 500, please not in pink, interstingly Volkswage sales and market share have fallen this year. The 208 seems to be catching on. Thanks for a great blog as always.

  13. frank stevens
    April 21, 2013

    On the subject of the Qashqai, it is interesting (yet somehow sad) to note that the Nissan plant in Sunderland UK built more vehicles during 2012, than the entire combined production of all marques in Italy … Fiat/Alfa/Lancia/Maserati/Ferrari, etc!

    At present Alfa Romeo only produces the Mito and Guilia. Where are the replacements for the GT, Brera, 159, 8C Competizione?

    Let’s hope that the resurgence of Fiat continues. The world is a better place with Italian cars in the mix!

  14. frank stevens
    April 21, 2013

    @Thomas

    @Sonico

    Thank-you Gentlemen for your common-sense responses to Bryan’s obvious personal vendetta against the Corsa!

  15. J77
    April 21, 2013

    Peugeot will grow with the new model 2008.

  16. Danijel
    April 21, 2013

    @Antek: Yes, they finally stopet down trend.

  17. antek
    April 21, 2013

    @Danijel

    Still Fiat is the only brand next to BMW with no losses after 1-st quarter.

  18. Thomas
    April 21, 2013

    @Bryan
    @Sonico

    It’s anyway a good car… you said that the Corsa is outdated, but obviously corporate customers don’t really care, as they buy it. This is the point!

    Actually, all brands are currently doing huge discounts. In France, whatever B-segment car you would buy (C3, Clio, Corsa, Fiesta, Polo, Yaris, 208…), you can easily get discounts from -10% to -25%. Of course discounts are much higher on old models (like Corsa, Clio 3, C3, Polo, 207+) than they are on brand-new ones (Clio 4, Fiesta, Yaris, 208).

    But Opel has currently good sales with the Corsa, and it’s a really good news as the company is experiencing some financial difficulties… If everybody compare everytime the cars, saying that X is better than Y or Z, everybody would finally buy the same model and the car industry would be much more boring!

  19. Qatar Cars
    April 21, 2013

    The list is interesting Nissan Qasqhai is also popular in Qatar

  20. Sonico
    April 20, 2013

    @Bryan
    Ok, thank you very much. I will take good note of it.

  21. Bryan
    April 20, 2013

    @Sonico
    Corsa is a completely outdated car. It’s worst than the majority of cars in this class such as 208, Polo, Ibiza, Clio, C3, Yaris, Fiesta, etc.. Their sales are only due to high discounts.

  22. Danijel
    April 20, 2013

    Fiat is growing, but this time last year, in Italy was some strikes. In traffic. And where is Panda? Not in top 10?

  23. Sonico
    April 19, 2013

    @Bryan
    Nearly 60% of the Corsa were sold in the UK and Spain. Being its project older than many competitors, I assume that yes, a huge share of sales comes from fleet and discounts, but I think some credit has to be given to the Corsa being a decent, although maybe not brilliant in any department, econocar.
    Other than that, I will not get in any “X is better than Y” debate :)

  24. Bryan
    April 19, 2013

    @Sonico

    Vauxhall/Opel Corsa is so much worst than 208, Polo and Clio. That performance is due to high discounts and rent-a-car sales in UK.

  25. Sonico
    April 19, 2013

    Huge performance of Opel Corsa, boosted by UK as mentiobned by Matt but also Spain, where it was #1, and for the Ford Fiesta, nicely restyled.
    And good for Fiat, indeed, being the only grower in the top ten. Quite sad, though, that it is lagging at the bottom of the chart while 20 or 30 years ago they were battling for the number one spot.

  26. Steam
    April 19, 2013

    Fiat is the only brand in the top-ten with a positive tendency.

  27. Juan Felipe Muñoz-Vieira
    April 19, 2013

    Interesting to see how Fiat was one of the few with positive growth in March. This is because of the success of the 500L. Come and see my latest post about the 500L against its rivals

    http://wp.me/p2pbob-IQ

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