10 responses

  1. Miguel
    October 5, 2011

    @Fabio83
    I´m sure it will be fabio. Fiat is a great company with great cars!

  2. Fabio83
    October 5, 2011

    @Miguel
    i totally agree with you. After a several japanese cars my family has bought a FIAT and now i hope that the future model are good like the German and South Korean automaker

  3. Miguel
    October 4, 2011

    @Fabio83
    Well Fabio, the question is: Fiat has to improve and spread its marketing and stablement all over the world as the German and South korean marques did. The electrical problems of the passed ceased and from now on Fiat is a kind of a brand new marque plenty of quality and charisma ready to compete with the German, American or Japonese brands.

  4. Fabio83
    October 4, 2011

    @tuga
    like i write to Miguel, Fiat now hasn’t a good reputation for more mistakes in the 90s. now the models are better but it’s difficult to recover the old market success of the 80s. Then some models stay on market for too much time, 7/8 or also 9 years when now the other competitors, especially the Hyundai and Kia present new car every 5 year like the new good i30.

  5. Fabio83
    October 4, 2011

    @Miguel
    The group Fiat now is better than the 2000s models. But there weren’t so many mistakes in the 1990s by the administration of Cesare Romiti who had destroy the great success of the three brand in the 80s. Fiat Uno, Tipo, Croma, Lancia Delta and Thema and Alfa Romeo 75 and 164. after great mistakes must pass so mach time to recover the trust of the market. Then here in Italy there are so many problems for assembly and build the car: the world of job is like in the 50s, too lock to settle down at the new economic scenarios. Then now FIAT continue to delays the new models for align to production of Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep. In my personal opinion we must wait until the 2014/2015 to see a good range of model, because for now there are just rebadging and a few of good car like 500, new Panda, Giulietta.

  6. Miguel
    October 4, 2011

    @Fabio83
    Fabio, I a fan of Italian cars and in my opinion they deserve to have better sales everywhere because they have improved a lot and they are becoming better in terms of general quality and reliability. I remember that in the eigthies Saab have a kind of a joint venture with Lancia and in nordic countries mainly in Sweden the Lancia Delta serie 1 launched in 1979 was sold by Saab with a badge called Lancia/Saab 400. I saw a couple of examples once in a journey to Sweden. Fiat have some glamour in Finland with the Punto and Alfa sell some examples there. Alfa romeo deserve to sell a larger number of cars but as you know they are all fully imported and high priced.

  7. tuga
    October 4, 2011

    @Fabio83
    Yeah, i know. It’s traditionally a weak market for them. But it’s like Hyundai/Kia ” stole ” that market from them, the market for competent, affordable cars ( and in Fiats case, with a little bit of fun also ). I don’t know, i guess its strange for me, as a southern European, seeing something like the Punto outside of the top 50.

    And Hyundai certainly deserve their success. I remember beeing really well impressed by the i30 back when it came out, and already there’s a new one. I may not always like the styling, but they seem to be good, solid cars, and they offer a hell of a warranty. It’s hard to resist when you are buying with your head instead of your heart :)

  8. Fabio83
    October 4, 2011

    @tuga
    FIAT group in the north Europe doesn’t sell so many cars. in a week around Gothenburg last summer i saw just 6/7 FIAT and Alfa Romeo.

    Hyundai and Kia conitune to present new model, and everytime these new car are so better than the older, just look the new i30, i40, Rio, Opitma/Magentis. Very good cars like the best European and Japanese cars.

    for Saab… :(
    i hope it could be survive, the new 9-5 is amazing, and the wagon is also better than sedan.

  9. tuga
    October 4, 2011

    Hyundai really are doing well… they have the i20 at #13 and the Kia Cee’d at #7. Meanwhile Citroen and Peugeot are way down on the chart, and Fiat has no car in the top 50…

    Oh, and SAAB :(

  10. Fabio83
    October 3, 2011

    great V60!!! i love that wagon. but it’s bad to not to see the Saab. :(

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