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What future for French manufacturers? (Part 2)

DS5 LS China 2014DS5 LS. The DS brand is separate from Citroen in China.

* Check out Part One of this Special Report on French manufacturers here *

This is Part 2 of my special feature on the future of French manufacturers. You can see Part 1 here. After evaluating both French manufacturers PSA and Renault through their European sales, overseas sales, international alliances and low cost models, we continue on this study of what lies ahead for French carmakers by going through 3 additional elements of comparison.

5. Luxury segment

What luxury segment? Exactly. This is one of the 10 things I don’t understand in the automobile world today. After a golden age when Delage, Delahaye, Panhard and other Bugatti were the pinnacle of refinement, nowadays French manufacturers have all but given up on luxury. Heck even Bugatti is now owned by Volkswagen along with Porsche, Lamborghini and Bentley… Thing is, when managed well, the luxury segment is extremely profitable and a luxury brand can do wonders to help a mass manufacturer survive and thrive. In almost any other luxury category, the French are masters of the universe. Chanel perfume, Louis Vuitton bags, Moët & Chandon champagne, Hermès scarves and Louboutin heels continue to rack up stratospheric sales and churn billions of dollars, but in the automotive world French luxury has gone missing. Surely if Victoria Beckham can design the interior of a Range Rover Evoque, the French can do better.

1938 Delahaye 1351938 Delahaye 135

Both Renault (Vel Satis anyone?) and Peugeot have given up, leaving to Citroen the task of getting back into luxury with its DS sub-brand, launched as a separate brand in China last year. Sales of DS models are plateauing in Europe at 110,554 units in 2013, down 6% on 2012. On one hand, that’s as much as Land Rover, which is not bad, on the other hand, Audi, BMW & Mercedes all outsell DS by 6 to 1 and are either stable or improving in a deflated market. The DS3 is the only DS model to gain ground in 2013 at +2% while the DS4 is down 14% and the DS5 down 17%.


If not in Europe, where can DS be successful? In China of course! PSA hopes the DS brand will improve its profitability there and has kicked off the local production of the DS5 last October through a new joint-venture with ChangAn. But really, what the Chinese want is a souped up luxury SUV like the DSX Wild Rubis. I have said it before and I will say it again. Bring this gem on, fast. It will sell like hot cakes in China and the whole of Asia. Thanks.

6. Perceived quality

We are now entering a very subjective domain and I will be quoting La Tribune here. Renault has come a long way to now manufacture cars considered as reliable, however its less recent models (Mégane, Laguna, Latitude and Koleos) are often perceived by consumers as dull, sad and charmless in spite of their robust diesel engines and handling qualities. The new Clio IV and Captur have won over many hearts, mainly due to their daring design, however car magazines often criticise the poor quality of the materials blatantly showing cost reduction at play.

Renault Clio IV. Picture courtesy of hamms.ruRenault Clio IV

PSA is in a different place at the moment, with its recently launched Peugeot 2008, 308, 508, Citroen C4 Picasso and C-Cactus hitting the mark in both the design and driving pleasure aspects. The DS line, albeit a little controversial with car experts, also helps with the perceived quality of the Group. All of this is good and well but the large majority of the models mentioned above are very little known outside of Europe where the large bulk of sales are happening with either the low-cost range for Renault or older models like the first generations C4 and 308 (in China) or 206+ (in South America) for Peugeot. So PSA needs to bring these new models in fast if they want their perceived quality to not be stuck in the nineties in emerging markets.

Audi A5Can PSA pull an Audi with the DS brand?

7. Brand differentiation

Having worked in advertising in my previous life, this is my pet fave. As car manufacturing groups, PSA and Renault must have a clear and differentiated positioning for each of their brands in order to be as profitable as possible. Case in point is the Volkswagen Group, to me one of the best examples of very effective brand differentiation. In their stable of brands, perhaps only Seat is still finding its bearings, but Volkswagen, Audi, Skoda, Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini and Bugatti all have a crystal clear positioning and rarely compete with each other, avoiding cannibalisation. This enables the group to progressively increase each model’s price and pull each brand up while reducing production costs by using the same platform for dozens of models, resulting in exponential profitability. To the point where there is now room below Skoda to introduce a low-cost brand that would undercut Dacia.

It seems simple when it’s well done, but this is a bloody hard task.

Dacia Logan 2004The first generation 2004 Dacia Logan…

Let’s look at Renault first. I have to admit I wasn’t a fan of selling Dacias in the same showroom as Renaults as I couldn’t for the life of me understand how someone could leave with a Kangoo for the price of two Dokkers. However careful observation and many dialogues with consumers and dealers have made me realise that Renault has actually managed to differentiate Dacia completely from its main brand, while still helping its success by ‘guaranteeing’ it (Dacia by Renault). It’s simple: Renault competes with other mass brands and Dacia competes with used cars, not with Renault. When it becomes tricky is where Renault sells Dacia models under the Renault brand, for example in Russia and South America.

Renault Logan Brazil. Picture courtesy of…and the current Brazilian Renault Logan

Here too my opinion has changed, having travelled to both these areas of the world where a new car is still very aspirational. To better understand how Renault was right to not launch the Dacia brand in emerging markets, you have to give up your Western European mind and understand that a Renault Logan is actually not a low cost car there. It competes at the core of the market, alongside antediluvian Chevrolets that have been in production for 20 years (Brazil) or against cheaper Chinese cars (Russia). Launching a new brand would have been way too risky and expensive. Now tthis is where I disagree with most car websites and analysts: selling the Logan, Sandero and Duster DOES NOT hurt the Renault brand in emerging markets, in fact it cements an image of honest, robust cars that don’t trick you with fluffy accessories and that you can rely on. A good car.

I bet you didn’t expect that. My opinion is Renault has managed to pull the trick of launching a low-cost range in both sophisticated and emerging markets while increasing that range’s profitability without hurting the main brand too much. No other manufacturer in the world has been able to do this yet, so well done.

Citroen C4 CactusCitroen is now positioned as ‘practical’ and the C4 Cactus is the emblem of this new philosophy.

Now onto PSA. Since the eighties, Peugeot and Citroen have basically been selling the same models with a (sometime not so) different look. Recently, PSA announced a new positioning for their brands: Citroen will do ‘practical’ cars with its C range, and the C4 Cactus is the emblem of this new philosophy, Peugeot will go a little up-market to be ‘semi premium’ and compete with Volkswagen and the DS range, which could (should) become a brand on its own in Europe, is premium. We saw in Part 1 of this Report that a new low-cost brand, Dongfeng’s Fengshan, could well insert itself at the bottom of this ladder.

Yes I know this makes years of Citroen World Rally Car investments redundant, but whether you currently agree with this positioning choice or not is besides the point. What will make or break this strategy is decades (yes, decades) of consistently acting it. Whether it be Citroen’s new positioning or DS’ one, but it will be harder for DS. Look at Audi: in the early seventies it was Volkswagen’s poor parent. It took almost 40 years to the VAG Group to get Audi to where it is right now. PSA should not expect the DS brand to achieve the same success in less time. It will take a long, long time and a lot of money to establish a new premium brand in the automotive world, but it is possible. Carlos Tavares agrees and said “remaking the Citroen DS sub-brand into a full-fledged marque that can compete with the likes of Audi and other luxury automakers may take two decades.”

Renault 2013 Financial results

PSA 2013 Financial resultsRenault and PSA 2013 Financial results (Click to enlarge)


But are French manufacturers currently making money? Renault made a €1.2 billion profit in 2013 mainly thanks to Nissan, (see its full 2013 Financial results here) and PSA made a €560 million loss (Full 2013 Financial results here). Which makes PSA’s €3 billion capital increase to Dongfeng and the French state announced last week all the more welcome. Had I written this article a couple of years ago, I would have had not much hope of survival for either manufacturer. But both Renault and PSA, albeit in very different situations regarding their alliances with other manufacturers and with very different strategies, seem to have faced the inevitable and acted upon it, gearing themselves up for battle in the coming 5 years. I don’t see any of them disappearing in the near future. The two Carlos (Ghosn and Tavares) are unbeliveably smart chief officers that know how to steer the behemoths that are Renault and PSA in the right direction.

Dongfeng Joyear X5 2014Dongfeng Joyear X5. Dongfeng is one of the keys to PSA’s success in China.

In particular, finally both French carmakers are putting money into China and this is where their future survival and profitability lies. Will the DS brand succeed? Will Renault get to the same level as Nissan in China in the space of a decade? Can Dongfeng help Peugeot expand and get to the next level in Asia? Is Fengshan the new Dacia? So many exciting questions, such exciting times.

Check out Part One of this Special Report on French manufacturers here *

This Post Has 12 Comments
  1. Hallo Matt, thanks for the interesting article. I sympathise with your loyalty to the once-great domestic marques and I believe that the de-facto takeover of PSA by Dongfeng will reap dividends for Peugeot and Citroen.
    I would, however, tend to disagree with your thought that no other manufacturer in the world has been able to do what Renault has done with Dacia, as VW has done the same with Skoda. From bringing a joke-brand into the respectable budget-brand level in 10 years, without affecting VW sales and actually helping to cement VW’s undeserved image for being a quality brand. My 2011 Polo was shockingly unreliable with a disaster of 4 warranty claims in 12 months, hence I think VW does not deserve an image of reliability or quality beyond that of Opel or Renault. Nevertheless, VW has managed to position Skoda as a budget brand without affecting VW.

  2. Instead of Fengshan, PSA should make low cost cars for europe reviving Simca or Talbot. Fiat should do the same with zastava.

  3. Thanks Matt, very interesting and thoughtful article.
    I do hope the PSA gets through this tough times and DS has great potential to become premium brand. I agree with you fully on Dacia, Renault pulled a masterpiece on that one. I wonder what the answer by VW will be… anyone wants to buy Golf Mark II with new design, sturdy build, no gadgets, and with decent safety technology????
    And when the others move in…. l guess we go back to stories with Japanese cars back in 80’s, we were told that in Japan, people change cars every 3years, and no one buys old one, thus they go to scrap. If so, then forget about residual value of the cars, they will become as laptops

  4. Peugeot with sport versions, and positioning above average.

    Citroën rational range.

    DS will not use the name of Citroën.

  5. There is a little confusion about Renault and Dacia.

    All the Dacias are Renault, they use Renault chassis, Renault engines, etc.. Dacia is just a way for Renault to sell its low cars in Europe, nothing more than that. It’s just like Vauxhall Opel or Buick, the cars are the same, only the name is different.

    All the comanies sell low cost cars all across the globe, a VW Gol is a low cost car, a Fiat Uno is a low car, a Chevrolet Celta is a low car, a Peugeot 207+ is a low cost car, etc..

    The only difference between Renault and those companies’ strategy is that Renault sells its low cars in Europe under the Dacia name.

  6. Cactus should be a success.
    Delahaye 135 has so much class!
    Matt, you should make an article about French luxury brands : Delahaye, Delage, Facel Vega, Bugatti, etc.

    1. Hi Luc,
      I have been thinking about doing just that but am waiting to publish sales figures for France in the 1930s to do so 🙂
      So stay tuned!

  7. Thank you for this still interesting 2nd part !

    Your analysis about Renault selling Dacia products in remerging countries and its impact on the image is interesting, I never saw it that way and I think you may be right !

    However I disagree with you about the fact that Dacia does not compete with Renault in Europe, since those last few months Clio sales have slowed down when Sandero sales were increasing, and in several countries the Sandero is now selling more than the Clio despite being hugely advertised and offering rebates. I think it is mainly the consequence of the poor quality of the Clio’s interior, in my opinion equivalent to the Sandero, the only difference between the two models being styling, as the Sandero now benefits from a lot more equipments than the 1st generation differences between the two models are too smalls considering the huge price difference.

    1. Hi Nicolas,
      Glad you still like it!
      I get your point about Dacia/Renault in Europe, however the fact that the Sandero sells more than the Clio does not mean that potential Clio buyers have chosen the Sandero instead. I was surprised by it myself as well but Dacia buyers are very different from Renault buyers. The slowing down of the Clio can be due to many factors and I think one of the main ones is the arrival of the Captur (which is also starting to sell better than the Clio in some European countries), the same as the slowing down of Peugeot 208 sales can be attributed to the arrival of the 2008.
      Hypothetically, Dacia could sell more than Renault as a brand but it will not necessarily mean than it will have taken sales away from Renault. More likely, it will take sales away from used cars and Skoda for example.
      Does this make sense?

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